It is also good to know that any "Oath" according to the Justice of the Bible is nullified by deception, fraud or coercion. This is also the case in the Law of the Land.
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Can a jw past come back to haunt a person ?
by lancelink inwhen a person joins the jw organization, do they make a statement claiming that they totally renounce any other religion ?.
i recently took a class titled " religions of the world" and for a final project students need to attend several religious services, and write a paper on the experience.. i find religions to be very interesting to study, but it has crossed my mind that i may have agreed to something when i became a witness back in 1977/ 15 years old at the time.
it is not a major concern, but i would just hate for some statement to appear, or be found by someone stating that i once completely disavowed any religion outside of the jw's.. not being neurotic here, just don't want that ridiculous part of my past jumping up and stabbing me in the backš.
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Illogical illustration of āthe rich man and the poor man Lazarusā (Luke 16:19-31)
by venus inillustration of the rich man and the poor man lazarus indirectly hints that the materially rich would go to hell and the poor ones to heaven.
if one reads between the lines, one can discern that this illustration is a later adoption intended to exploit the rich using the poor as a means.. i have friends who are extremely rich (net-worth in billions) and also who are materially very poor, and have found both are living in hell because of their attitude.
the excess the rich have prevents them from enjoying it (and even the affluent find a huge gap between income and desires, hence find themselves often in conflict and competition) and whereas the deprived compare themselves with the haves which prevents them also from enjoying their lives.. jesus would not provide an illustration that undermines his own most favored statement: āhappy are those poor in spirit because kingdom of heavens belongs to themā (mathew 5:3) and his own explanation that heaven is the condition of oneās heart (luke 17:21) obviously he had in mind those who do not have the baggage of attachment and sense of possession, those few people of simplicity that belong to both the categoriesāthe rich and the poor.ļ»æ simplicity is the ultimate sophistication, a stage where every possession serves a purpose living a life that is deliberate and intentional (not one that someone else has scripted for them) and wanting to feel more complete (not more objects of the world), at ease.
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Vanderhoven7,
The Parable prophetically reveals the Justice and the Healing which is yet to come. your explanation is quite accurate regarding the ethical symbolisms and sheds much light. There is a bit more, however, which solidifies the extent of the Really Good News. The link explanation is quite lengthy but well worth the effort following it through. The Bible truly is an incredible Book.
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Illogical illustration of āthe rich man and the poor man Lazarusā (Luke 16:19-31)
by venus inillustration of the rich man and the poor man lazarus indirectly hints that the materially rich would go to hell and the poor ones to heaven.
if one reads between the lines, one can discern that this illustration is a later adoption intended to exploit the rich using the poor as a means.. i have friends who are extremely rich (net-worth in billions) and also who are materially very poor, and have found both are living in hell because of their attitude.
the excess the rich have prevents them from enjoying it (and even the affluent find a huge gap between income and desires, hence find themselves often in conflict and competition) and whereas the deprived compare themselves with the haves which prevents them also from enjoying their lives.. jesus would not provide an illustration that undermines his own most favored statement: āhappy are those poor in spirit because kingdom of heavens belongs to themā (mathew 5:3) and his own explanation that heaven is the condition of oneās heart (luke 17:21) obviously he had in mind those who do not have the baggage of attachment and sense of possession, those few people of simplicity that belong to both the categoriesāthe rich and the poor.ļ»æ simplicity is the ultimate sophistication, a stage where every possession serves a purpose living a life that is deliberate and intentional (not one that someone else has scripted for them) and wanting to feel more complete (not more objects of the world), at ease.
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When fully understood the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus is quite beautiful.
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On the Subject of Demons, I Have a Story to Tell.
by snugglebunny ini have posted the full story on a fb site.
so my apologies to anyone who's already read it.
some of what i've written is what was told to me by my father.
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Aye, I'll definitely agree with _Morpheus on this!
Quote from _Morpheus:
Ok im hooked. More please
I think Snugglebunny has a book and a movie unfolding here.
Wonderful stuff!
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This Story Says It All
by Lee Elder inthis story shows the sad reality of being a jw in a medical emergency, and how incredibly difficult it is to make an informed, free choice about medical care.
it also shows that for jw's, obeying watchtower leaders is more important than marriage or even the life of your child.
very sad indeed: http://lifestyle.inquirer.net/267054/religious-husband-dumped-saving-child/ .
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Very strong evidence of the traumatic fear-based brainwashing done by the WTBorg.
Quote from Victim Wife of WTBorg:
He said this procedure would make Jehovah angry. He said he was willing to sacrifice our daughterās life to please God
Quote from Victim Wife of WTBorg:
He even warned that our daughter and I would be punished for what Iāve done
While the Husband WTBorg has acted in the manner of a Complete As$Hole, I suppose it would be only right to have pity on the poor soul. He, very sadly, knows not what he has done and continues to do. Same for the congregation who have been hoodwinked.
The Victim Wife, conversely, demonstrates the Fruitage of the Holy Spirit in lovingly valuing the life of her daughter to provide her with life-saving blood. Blood from the place it belongs in her body to the place blood belongs in her daughter's body. How the WTBorg can equate this process to "eating blood" is Hateful Satanism.
Good Golly Miss Molly! The Brainwashing is incomprehensible. Banning of The Cult is perhaps the only solution.
Love the foregoing commentary... Right On!!
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Subliminal images - why and who are the individuals behind it?
by UnshackleTheChains ini remember about 5 years ago reading on another site about subliminal images in wt literature.
i honestly thought it a load of bs until i checked out one glaringly obvious image of a creepy skull in clouds within the knowledge book.
i was shocked and even showed my wife at the time who thought it was creepy.. so my question is why?
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Quote from Cofty:
That is a very strange statement. Surely the WT traces its roots to the 19th century Protestant Adventist movement.That is a very strange statement. Surely the WT traces its roots to the 19th century Protestant Adventist movement.
Aye, that is so. All Protestant movements originated with Roman Catholicism and, unfortunately, retained many, many of its false beliefs. The WTBorg continue to propagate these same false beliefs even today. There is in fact, little difference between WT teachings and MainLine Christendom teachings. Especially those teachings relating to "money" and "tithes." Mammon has become the "New Master." They (WTBorg) have brought themselves into alignment with the proposed "One World Religion" as it attempts to obliterate the Really Good News of The Word. These Strange Times are getting very strange indeed!
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Subliminal images - why and who are the individuals behind it?
by UnshackleTheChains ini remember about 5 years ago reading on another site about subliminal images in wt literature.
i honestly thought it a load of bs until i checked out one glaringly obvious image of a creepy skull in clouds within the knowledge book.
i was shocked and even showed my wife at the time who thought it was creepy.. so my question is why?
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Occult images and symbols are quite profuse in movies, advertising and especially music videos. It is a way for the producing organization to "signify" to "those in the know" that they are supportive of and a part of The World and where it is headed: New World Order.
A principal characteristic of all such organizations is the Love of Money. It is not possible to serve two masters. The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is today still a sect of Roman Christendom. It has, in fact, never gotten out of Roman Christendom. Their deceptions have fooled a great many people.
The WTBorg Cult has little to do with the Really Good News of The Word.
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Wow i do not reconize this religion anymore...
by _Morpheus inhad the misfortune of stopping by the "regional" convention yesterday.
i promised my daughter i would come to sunday afternoon so she wouldnt have to ride home with her mother.... holy crap it was weird!
im sure all of this has been covered on the forum but to actually see it.... just wow.
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Not surprising actually. When the modern day Pharisees take control of something this is always the end result. The Masters of Hollywood and the Entertainment Industry have got all the angles worked out to perfection in order to rake in the dough. The Monarch Butterfly as a symbol of the trauma based mind control sex slave program is significant as well. The Jdubs are already well conditioned to spy on others suspiciously and to "report" any signs of potential apostasy. Yep, Orwell's 1984 pretty closely aligns with the New World Order and it would appear that WTGBborg plans to be part of it...
The End must be very near.
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Reached a milestone today!
by Bungi Bill intoday represents for me something of a milestone.
after breaking both bones in my lower left leg nearly four months ago, i am now able to walk without the aid of crutches.
also, the orthopedic specialist has cleared me to once more drive a motor vehicle.
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Aye, knock back a coupla Cold Ones! They'll brighten your spirit and enhance that zest for living now that your Sea Legs are again fully operational. Let the good times roll!
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I Give Up!
by pale.emperor inim giving up guys.
i've reached the end of my patience and now i finally refuse to waste any more time on part-time witnesses.
i've text all of my active jw family members and told them to delete my number from their phone and never contact me again.
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How very sad. Well illustrates how deeply embedded the Programming and Guilt and Fear are as a result of the coordinated Mind Control Operation.
There is yet hope, however. Seeds have been planted which will yet germinate and take root. Waking up for most is a gradual process with many "one step forward two steps back" events which can be very frustrating to observe. There is no logic or rationale involved - the deep seated fears are very strong emotions and when they "trigger" the "Borg effect" kicks in.
After you've survived the frustration and peace returns, you'll realize that "giving up" is not a prudent option. Your strengths, your patience, your long-suffering and your Love are what bring them to you in times of need. One day they'll all comprehend that and thank you for it!